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dave99
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Another photo
Another photo
Another photo
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chickenman
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hi, this is near H Dreams and looks very nice but am lost is the road infront of H Dreams being expanded? I thought i understood the area but until i go i am obviously lost.
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awahee123
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Hi chickenman,
Is the marina near to your development?...
Is the marina near to your development?...
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dave99
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Very near to Red Sea Residencia
About 1000 metres from Hurghada Dreams which is further down the beach road.
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Very near to Red Sea Residencia - about 500 metres at a guess.
About 1000 metres from Hurghada Dreams which is further down the beach road.
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awahee123
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I thought it was more then a 1000 metres (Hurghada Dreams).
I should be going over shortly I will get some pictures of this area for all to see.
I should be going over shortly I will get some pictures of this area for all to see.
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chickenman
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Thanks for that, it is good to know. 1km to me does not seem far as i walk that every morning just to get to my chickens down my fields 
ok no not in searing heat. I will be out there soon and will take some pics. My biggest concern now as people keep putting it in my mind it the 'Shanty Town' references how much of an eyesore is it? I was very bullish about seeing the area and H Dreams but now a few nerves are coming to light. Is the shanty towns nearer the marina or H Dreams end?
ok no not in searing heat. I will be out there soon and will take some pics. My biggest concern now as people keep putting it in my mind it the 'Shanty Town' references how much of an eyesore is it? I was very bullish about seeing the area and H Dreams but now a few nerves are coming to light. Is the shanty towns nearer the marina or H Dreams end? P
propertastic
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The 'Shanty Town' bit is tiny - only visible from the back of the MarinaThanks for that, it is good to know. 1km to me does not seem far as i walk that every morning just to get to my chickens down my fields
The areas where Hurghada Dreams and Red Sea Residencia are located are fine.
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chickenman
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Thanks for that propertastic thought i was the only crazy whom started work so early. Thanks again.
thought i was the only crazy whom started work so early. Thanks again. P
propertastic
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Early? I haven't gone to bed yet! I am a creature of the night!
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WESTMIDS33
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Shanty town
Hi propertastic,
I note what you say about Hurghada dreams but my understanding is that this development is near the Arabia/Dahar area of Hurghada. If that is the case then Shanty Town seems harsh but the area around it is under developed and a bit of a shock to tourists who come out of the plush Hotels.
I think investors will get a nice apartment from Hurghada Dreams but they need to know what they are walking out to once they leave the complex. I was there in November and it can be a culture shock compared to other parts of Hurghada. A more comfortable area and one that has been heavily invested in for Tourism is the Touristic/Village Road/Intercontinental area which includes developments such as Lotus Breeze, Suledar, Desert Pearl, Saras Residence, Regency Towers, Westside Village and Lotus.
As for photos i note those put on the forum by SHO and they look great of the building. As an investor I would want photos of the surrounding area.
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Westmids33
Hi propertastic,
I note what you say about Hurghada dreams but my understanding is that this development is near the Arabia/Dahar area of Hurghada. If that is the case then Shanty Town seems harsh but the area around it is under developed and a bit of a shock to tourists who come out of the plush Hotels.
I think investors will get a nice apartment from Hurghada Dreams but they need to know what they are walking out to once they leave the complex. I was there in November and it can be a culture shock compared to other parts of Hurghada. A more comfortable area and one that has been heavily invested in for Tourism is the Touristic/Village Road/Intercontinental area which includes developments such as Lotus Breeze, Suledar, Desert Pearl, Saras Residence, Regency Towers, Westside Village and Lotus.
As for photos i note those put on the forum by SHO and they look great of the building. As an investor I would want photos of the surrounding area.
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Westmids33
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dave99
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New buildings near New Marina
It will be a "different world" once inside, as you can see from the pics.
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The area that is "old" at the back of the New Marina is also being revamped with many new buildings so that sometime over the next year or so there will be a much better "touristic feel", but will still be a mix of the old and new just outside the Marina gates.
It will be a "different world" once inside, as you can see from the pics.
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dave99
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Arabia Beach photo thread
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There is an "Arabia Beach photos" thread by Propertywatch which shows some of the new development at the Arabia Beach Hotel end of this area.
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WESTMIDS33
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Arabia Beach
I saw that and to be frank the pictures confirm what I have said that the area is underdeveloped and in need of investment by the Government. It is easy for people to suggest that money is going to be poured into it but what we as investors would require is hard proof, time sacales and not hearsay.
Compare this area with the Touristic area which has had clear investment over the years and there is no comparison. My views are that the Arabia Beach/Dahar area will always be playing catch up with the Touristic area.
The Arabia Beach at this moment in time is more for local Egyptians then Tourists and it will be a fair while/years before it changes.
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Westmids33
Hi Dave99,
I saw that and to be frank the pictures confirm what I have said that the area is underdeveloped and in need of investment by the Government. It is easy for people to suggest that money is going to be poured into it but what we as investors would require is hard proof, time sacales and not hearsay.
Compare this area with the Touristic area which has had clear investment over the years and there is no comparison. My views are that the Arabia Beach/Dahar area will always be playing catch up with the Touristic area.
The Arabia Beach at this moment in time is more for local Egyptians then Tourists and it will be a fair while/years before it changes.
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Westmids33
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dave99
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Arabia Beach - a Developing area - sure is
You're quite right - Arabia Beach is at least 12 months behind some areas of Hurghada - and that is reflected in the lower prices - the point is that when most of the developments are completed in about 9 to 15 months it will be a much nicer place to be - and that's what makes it a more interesting location for investment.
For those looking for "instant tourist" then Village road is it - TODAY, without sea view walks.
If you want to see the sea and the sand then the place to be is definitely Arabia Beach, it's no contest, it wins hands down.
If you want it all then go to one of the out of town resorts and pay their premium prices for the privilege - all down to taste and depth of your pockets.
You're quite right - Arabia Beach is at least 12 months behind some areas of Hurghada - and that is reflected in the lower prices - the point is that when most of the developments are completed in about 9 to 15 months it will be a much nicer place to be - and that's what makes it a more interesting location for investment.
For those looking for "instant tourist" then Village road is it - TODAY, without sea view walks.
If you want to see the sea and the sand then the place to be is definitely Arabia Beach, it's no contest, it wins hands down.
If you want it all then go to one of the out of town resorts and pay their premium prices for the privilege - all down to taste and depth of your pockets.
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WESTMIDS33
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12 months behind?
Im sorry but again I would have to disagree with you. I cannot see Arabia Beach being 12 Months behind but more like 2-3 years. There are no big companies/chains of investors that I know of coming to the Arabia Beach area. They are all happy in Sekalla or the Touristic area.
In order to play catch up with the Touristic area these large shops/restaurant chains would have to be persuaded and I cannot see that happening.
Apart from your red sea residentia I cannot see any other developments being built barring Hurghada Dreams which as I have mentioned earlier is going to experience the same difficulties.
As for prices I dont believe there is a big difference between the areas barring Sahl Hasheesh which is almost twice the price of Hurghada now.
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Naj
Hi dAVE99,
Im sorry but again I would have to disagree with you. I cannot see Arabia Beach being 12 Months behind but more like 2-3 years. There are no big companies/chains of investors that I know of coming to the Arabia Beach area. They are all happy in Sekalla or the Touristic area.
In order to play catch up with the Touristic area these large shops/restaurant chains would have to be persuaded and I cannot see that happening.
Apart from your red sea residentia I cannot see any other developments being built barring Hurghada Dreams which as I have mentioned earlier is going to experience the same difficulties.
As for prices I dont believe there is a big difference between the areas barring Sahl Hasheesh which is almost twice the price of Hurghada now.
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Naj
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dave99
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No doubt the other agents can help you here
No doubt the other agents can help you here if you PM them for a list of other dvelopments, of which there are many - maybe not near to Dreams but certainly opposite the Arabia beach Hotel where I am. You only need to go and take a look to be able to see some quite large units almost completed, which claim to be almost sold out.
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No doubt the other agents can help you here if you PM them for a list of other dvelopments, of which there are many - maybe not near to Dreams but certainly opposite the Arabia beach Hotel where I am. You only need to go and take a look to be able to see some quite large units almost completed, which claim to be almost sold out.
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awahee123
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Arabia beach is an area to see before you decide to invest in it, it certainly isn't for everyone and even though it may catch up in the next few years it has a long way to go.Anybody buying for a quick resale forget it,anybody buying for the long term may be ok.
I could happily go and live in this area tomorrow I wouldn't have an issue however if I were looking for rental then there are better positioned developments.
Don't part with your money without a look you will be sorry.
I could happily go and live in this area tomorrow I wouldn't have an issue however if I were looking for rental then there are better positioned developments.
Don't part with your money without a look you will be sorry.
Peter Mitry
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Good advice; never buy anything until you have looked at it. Would you buy at home without seeing where your house is located?
SHO
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I think anyone buying for a quick resale in an emerging market such as Hurghada should forget it.
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jeremy bright
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yes you are probably right as with this Marina there are properties around the hundred thousand ponds and i was not impurest with the place when i had a look in November it was a ghost town but i bet there was a lot sold with people siting on them or trying to sell but there was only one or two people that looked as if there was in them was no lights on it the apartments
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