Failing buyers in brasil

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penelopy

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I am rather disturbed that buyers have been purchasing property from a company called Grupo Imobiliari or the new (IMG) quick name change by the moderator of this Brasilian Forum. This site is aimed at people interested in purchasing in Brasil
to seek advise of whice John Broad has played a hughly large part on it on giving advise to people and plugging his own developments in the process which honest buyers have happily or cautiously purchased and who are now looking at the consequences. Hope it all pans out for the buyers and they get their rightful compensation.
 
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JMBroad

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Although this post breaks several of the forum rules, I'm going to allow it to stay up to make a point. However, you will get a warning for purposefully trying to be inflammatory.

Continue and you will be banned for breaking the forum rules, not because I feel the need to defend myself by banning people.

1) I am rather disturbed that buyers have been purchasing property from a company called Grupo Imobiliari or the new (IMG) quick name change by the moderator of this Brasilian Forum.

The name change was because we have grown enormously as a company over the past two years and a new brand image was required to accompany the growth and development of the company. The company registered name with the authorities is the same one it has always been and we are not hiding the fact that we changed name in any way - apart from a press release sent to every one of our clients, partners, suppliers and contacts, we also did numerous advertising around the world to let people know we've changed name and we also kept the website we had previously with a link to our new website. Merely one of the reasons we changed name was because people kept misspelling it - "GRUP" is spelt in Catalá (Barcelona region of Spain) but people insisted (like yourself) in calling us either "GROUP" or "GRUPO"

This site is aimed at people interested in purchasing in Brasil to seek advise of whice John Broad has played a hughly large part on it on giving advise to people and plugging his own developments in the process which honest buyers have happily or cautiously purchased and who are now looking at the consequences.

2) - And the reason you get a warning - not a single person has received information about our developments without repeatedly requesting it - When people asked about Sonhos do Mar, I posted to inform them with as much information as I could, but I have never advertised where I work nor done any "plugging" for my own developments. As far as I know, only investors of ours who have bought were then told about these forums by us. For example Peko learnt of the forums after he visited us here in Brazil and I have no reason to hide the fact that I moderate these forums as I do so impartially and without bias.

Hope it all pans out for the buyers and they get their rightful compensation.

3) Funnily enough, the developer was obliged contractually to pay R$ 1.090,00 per month late delivery compensation, we paid R$ 1.500,00 of our own free will. According to Brazilian law, the developer should be paid in full and then the client can take the developer to court to receive their fines for late delivery. We are not only paying above and beyond what the contracts state, but are also deducting from outstanding payments, where applicable. Several buyers could not go through with the purchase because of their own financial issues overseas and have are going through the process of getting their money back - several have already received payment and some are still going through the process.

I think it is more worrying that without anyone providing any proof and despite the years I've been on this site moderating without ever advertising my own developments, you are so quick to judge (especially without knowing what is going on) But so is the world we live in!
 
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JMBroad

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I don't think so Rob. I think (or at least hope as I like to have faith in people) that Penelopy simply thought Peko was telling the truth in his posts. If I didn't know me, the company or the situation and someone posted saying what he did, the chances are I'd be suspicious as well.

Unfortunately not everyone thinks it through or does some research before condemning another based on hearsay and mistruths.
 
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JMBroad

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Although it is interesting that Penelopy called me John Broad. Most people make a mistake and think that JM Broad means Jim Broad not John M Broad. As you know I met Dotty in person on more than one occasion and she certainly does know my name.

But I don't believe it - having met her, she is a nice enough person and has good friends who worked with us so she knows me personally and also knows the truth about how we work and how much we try and do for our customers first hand from good friends of hers.

Wouldn't make sense - as I said, I'm sure it's just an honest mistake.
 
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Krisja

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Dear John Broad,

My business partner and I considering overseas investment. We have started looking into Golden Fields.

Following this thread and the Sonhos do Mar one. We have a few questions in regards to IMG. Probably no more than you would with any other developer.

At the moment my PM function has not been enabled, perhaps you could email me (email removed)
Cheers,

Krisja.
 
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JMBroad

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Certainly - by the way I removed your email address from this post as it is against the forum rules - to enable your private messaging on the forums, you'll need to make another 5 posts.
 
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Norbert

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I don't think so Rob. I think (or at least hope as I like to have faith in people) that Penelopy simply thought Peko was telling the truth in his posts. If I didn't know me, the company or the situation and someone posted saying what he did, the chances are I'd be suspicious as well.

Unfortunately not everyone thinks it through or does some research before condemning another based on hearsay and mistruths.
But that doesn't mean that Penelope couldn't be 'dotty' at the same time.
 
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penelopy

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I would like some info regarding Aspen Woolf.They are marketing rooms called Petropolis Suites.
Has anybody invested in these ?

Thx
 
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JMBroad

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I believe they have forgotten to take it off their website as the development they are advertising is now pretty much sold out and the last 5 or 6 units of 99 m2 are being sold direct to the local market and the developer IMG has stopped marketing overseas except through a couple of overseas agents who are still talking to clients who received the information before sales were closed.

It is a building of 86 apartments, with either 55 m2 of 99 m2 located in Rua Mossoró and is being developed by IMG Incorporadora, one of the companies within the IMG group of companies. Construction is underway and progress can be seen on the IMG website.

Thank you for bringing it to my attention, I'll remind them that it needs to be removed.
 
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Rodders

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Hi John Broad,
Greetings - as an investor currently eyeing the Golden Fields development - I have a pretty much identical post to Krisja.

I also have a few questions with regards to IMG, and am seeking assurance this is a company I will not regret entering into business with, esp in light of this news regarding Sonhos De Mar.

Similarly, I do not have a PM service enabled but can be contacted on Rodney.Property at g mail com

Thanks
 
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penelopy

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There were some previous posts about this company with regards several court cases against them and disgruntled customers.
Hi John Broad,
Greetings - as an investor currently eyeing the Golden Fields development - I have a pretty much identical post to Krisja.

I also have a few questions with regards to IMG, and am seeking assurance this is a company I will not regret entering into business with, esp in light of this news regarding Sonhos De Mar.

Similarly, I do not have a PM service enabled but can be contacted on Rodney.Property at g mail com

Thanks
 
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