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Why Not Bulgaria

Discussion in 'Bulgaria Property' started by ronald, Sep 25, 2006.

  1. ronald

    ronald New Member

    Hi All,

    I am Bulgarian and I?m living in Sofia, but I?m not a property agent.

    In 2002 I purchased 150 sq.m. Apartment in one of the most expensive districts in Sofia ?Lozenets? for 350 Euro per sq.m. The deal: the developer purchased the land for 100 Euro per sq.m., built 6 storey apartment house and sold it for 350 ? 400 Euro per sq.m., making modest profits of 200-250 Euro per sq.m. Between 2002 and mid 2005 the apartment?s prices went up 2-3 folds, driven mainly by British investors. It was good time and I have sold a lot of off-road cars (I?m a car dealer and roads here are not quite good) to developers, builders, suppliers of building materials, real-estate agents, etc., but since the prices started to fall they do not look so optimistic as they were before. Meanwhile everyone who could afford it already bought (because Britons are coming) second, third, fourth or fifth apartment in Sofia, residence in Bansko or seaside, so now here is full with uninhabited blocks and borrowed loans.
    Having in mind that, on the negative side:
    -Bulgaria is very sparsely inhabited, lost 15% of its population in the last 15 years and this trend even accelerates, there are 3.6 million dwellings on 7 million population.
    -average incomes are approx. 75 Euro per person per month and do not seem to improve anytime soon
    -30000 apartments are in the pipeline (2006) in Sofia alone
    -current account deficit (import is bigger than export) for 2005 was 14% and is worsening
    -the whole economy became too much dependent on British property investors
    -rents rates in Sofia now are between 1 and 3 Euro per sq.m. monthly, but it is very difficult to find tenants
    -Cost price for building 5-8 floor house is approx. 170 Euro per sq.m. (without land)
    -at seaside loss making hotels started to be transformed into apartment houses for British property investors
    and on the positive side:
    -Number of British property investors seem endless, furthermore they started to sell between themselves (they can not sell to Bulgarians of course), trying to raise the prices even higher
    -Bulgaria will soon join EU, so hopefully property investors from another countries will be also interested in purchase
    -Number of British tourists increased 100% from 10000 to 20000 in the last season

    Is the current prices decline temporary or not?

    Cheers!!
     
  2. dennis

    dennis New Member

    ronald,

    Couple of reasons why not to invest.
    1. Security or lack of it for non secure loans the rate is around 25%
    per annum and up front which you are not going to get.
    2. Why invest in Bulgaria when I can invest with the same risk in Fiji or Western Samoa and the return is better.
    3. For British pound I would invest in the northern Lebanon, French south wine area, or the south of Spain, and get better returns the Bulgaria.
    4. british investors invest were the return is equal to risk and not sure if that takes in Bulgaria I think that you would find more investing in eastern Asia, the Arab states and the Greek island areas before Bulgaria and why
    because I'm British and go there at least once every 2 years so know a little bit about the country.
    One thing you must do when pitching a sale is know your market and sorry you don't.
    the people investing in Bulgaria is the eastern European /old user states and yes they are investing and yes the market is moving but to the extent that you are predicting isn't on my radar.

    Enjoy!!
     
  3. eyeC

    eyeC Senior Member

    cheerz

    he doesnt
    who will pay 350 euro per foot or is it meter
     
  4. mike123

    mike123 New Member

    A lot of people, if you cant it is your problem
     
  5. eyeC

    eyeC Senior Member

    mike123

    if you read what ronald was saying average wage 75E per month so the next question will be who will rent for 300E the local ppl wont
    and why do you have to question everything i say
     
  6. mike123

    mike123 New Member

    cause it is just not right, most of the thing are just not true
     
  7. ROKO

    ROKO New Member

    this is the best place for investment!i ve bought 2 years ago apartment-for 30000euro,now it cost 50000euro!its good,and the place is very beautiful.my advice is -just do it!
    ...::: Avalon Estates :::...
    i know this people,they were very nice,so you can trust them!if you need help and information,just contact me-pm-i can help with advice
    (this is not AD)
     
  8. nikol

    nikol New Member

    Hi,
    The avarage wage in BG now is approx. 200-250 E( no one will work for 75E per month). And if you invest to let the apartment the best places are summer or winter resotrs, where you can let the apartment to the tourists, and if the manegement company is good your property will be all the time occupied.
     
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