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What news on new Natal airport progress? ... Rumour has it work has ground to a recessionary halt. Are we to see aircraft landing with throngs of happy holidaymakers and eager investors in 2010 or is 2010 now 2015? ....
According to the president of ADIT Nordeste it will be more like 2011/12. Since a large part of the new airport is meant to be devoted to freight I imagine that demand for Brazil commodities will really dictate when this airport is finished.What news on new Natal airport progress? ... Rumour has it work has ground to a recessionary halt. Are we to see aircraft landing with throngs of happy holidaymakers and eager investors in 2010 or is 2010 now 2015? ....
27-Jan-2009 Journal NoMinuto
In individual audience with President Lula, governor of the state asks for swiftness in the construction of the airport of São Gonçalo do Amarante.
Appreciate the update ... Thank you
Kliffy
Sorry, I usually provide a link(s) to back up my information.So they will be landing those pigs in Natal's new airport from 2010 on?
Would probably help the rest of us if either of you added some more information - Jeduardo where did you hear that news about Lula and Wilma? Was it in a newspaper, radio?
And SaoP are there any new reasons why you don't think it'll be ready by 2010?
Any information helps but a little substenance goes a long way.
Sorry, I usually provide a link(s) to back up my information.
19/02/2009 12h15min
Brazilian President Lula asks BNDES for agility in the construction of new airport
In a hearing with Governor Wilma de Faria, the President said that the airport will start operating by the end of 2010.
Lula pede ao BNDES agilidade na construção do novo aeroporto
18/02/2009 22h21min
Decree of ZPE for São Gonçalo airport will be signed in April
The hearing of the Governor Wilma de Faria with the Executive Secretary and Deputy Minister of Development, Ivan Ramalho, lasted about half an hour and the result is it that President Luis Inacio Lula da Silva will sign the decree to regulate the Export Processing Zone (ZPE) on April 6 during the reunion of the Northeast Development Superintendency (SUDENE) that will take place in Montes Claros, interior de Minas Gerais.
Decreto da ZPE do aeroporto de São Gonçalo será assinado em abril
40% of primary and secondary runways already completed - totaling 6 km long
25/11/2008 ???
Tribuna do Norte - Motores do RN Novo aeroporto: um sonho que está só começando
One could argue the differences between optimistic, pessimistic and naievity until the pigs come home to roost thoughI am not disputing it will not be completed, I am only disputing the time keeping. Like the majoity of posts, me and my brasilian colleagues just laugh at the nievity of gringos on this site. If you havent lived here for any reasonable amout of time, foreign people just dont understand how things work here.
Get back to me in 2010 when all completed. I will certainly eat my words for all to see.
Personally I've always thought it's better to have a continuous and steady, sustainable property market with conditions to help the market rise at a healthy pace rather than the kind of gambling that went on in Dubai.Any news is better than no news and out of that may come some substance ... eventually!
new Natal airport > emergence from global recession > increase in carriers to Natal > more tourists > increased development > property boom ?
I know ... wishfull thinking or what!
Kliffy
Interesting perspective ... Thank youPersonally I've always thought it's better to have a continuous and steady, sustainable property market with conditions to help the market rise at a healthy pace rather than the kind of gambling that went on in Dubai.
However, that is not to say that I don't believe in the plans for the new airport - I'm 100% convinced that a much larger airport can and will bring huge benefits to Natal, RN and the Northeast as a while. I hope that the runways will be finished and the terminals will be built very soon (sooner the better) however there is a potential catalyst which is much more important than the airport for us to see a real "property boom" in Brazil.
Currently there are very good conditions to invest in the Brazillian real estate market, some areas are considered "better investments" than others and each of the above are subject to the opinions and hopes of those who have or are looking to invest in the market in one way or another. Just travelling around Brazil it's easy to see potential just about anywhere. But it's not because of the tourists, the tourists help, no doubt but the domestic population is the driving force fuelling it and the force that will keep it going for many years.
Remember that political and economic security is something of relatively recent years in Brazil - when Brazil achieved Political stability could be argued but I remember Brazilian friends of mine back when Lula first ran for office (as recently as 2002/2003) terrified that he was going to destroy the work of Cardoso and ruin the growing economy... But when he surprised everyone by continuing many of the policies and even improving on many of them, the change of heart was noticeable. And it worked - and how.
Economic stability is something Brazil has really only achieve in the past three years. The leaps and bounds which the Brazilian economy has taken just since 2005 is staggering. Look it up.
Now, add to that 30 year mortgages which were only implemented for the first time last year and you have a population (5th largest population in the world, remember) which is young, confident in the potential of their nation and suddenly has the option of 30 year credit.
So what is missing? What is always missing during the infancy of a mortgage market - availability of similar mortgage product to overseas investors. Brazilians can get mortgages but chiefly only for housing which is already built and has the "Habite-se" license - the certification that what they are buying was built according to the approved plans and is ready for habitation. Overseas investors who want to purchase off-plan at a discount can only do so if they have the cash available.
So, while the airport will be a huge boon to the area, financial packages being available to overseas buyers is the real carrot we should be hoping for. With the packages currently available to Brazilian buyers, you can buy a house in Brazil in a good neighbourhood, in a gated development with lots of amenities for 100 € a month or less. But (for now) only if you are Brazilian.
Wedneday, 25-Feb-2009 16:49Any news is better than no news and out of that may come some substance ... eventually!
new Natal airport > emergence from global recession > increase in carriers to Natal > more tourists > increased development > property boom ?
I know ... wishfull thinking or what!
Kliffy
Mixed metaphors apart, if the tender process occurs in August 2009, I cannot see it realistically being completed by the end of 2010, just 16 months later...!One could argue the differences between optimistic, pessimistic and naievity until the pigs come home to roost though
But we'll see - I'm personally not convinced about 2010 but I'm hopeful.
I meant that relating to overall in Brazil -Mixed metaphors apart, if the tender process occurs in August 2009, I cannot see it realistically being completed by the end of 2010, just 16 months later...!
But the sooner the better...