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feeble, just like the rest of your posts ..... zzzzzzzzzzzzyou don't even know how to post in a forum....lol. Nice post #61!
feeble, just like the rest of your posts ..... zzzzzzzzzzzzyou don't even know how to post in a forum....lol. Nice post #61!
Deb....I certainly am not trying to "spin" anything. As everyone can plainly see, these articles were written by Brazilians and factual statistics were published from both the Brazilian Ministry of Health and Justice. And naturally, like statistics anywhere, one can assume that these numbers are "best case scenario", especially here in Brazil, where admittedly thousands of people are murdered every year unknowingly....they just disappear. And also, here in Brazil we are just beginning to keep what could be termed "accurate statistics". At least most are in a realistic ballpark today. Ten years ago statistics for many things didn't even exist, or were so far incorrect it was ludicrous to even discuss them.
Point being that Brazil is a very dangerous place to live. And foreigners in particular have to be very careful when coming here to live or spend significant time. As this is not england and it is not the U.S. And people cannot "live" here in Brazil and have the same habits as they did in their home countries.
And you are very right about one thing....our 'ole friend "beenthere"(LOL, don't think he's been to brazil very much) couldn't be more incorrect about stating Natal being the safest place in Brazil....far from it. I would even debate his add-on comment about it being the safest capitol city in brazil today. Today being the key word for the very reason you mentioned Debzor.
I have to say that I was also very surprised at the statistics!! I visited Itamaraca some 3 years ago, and also Maria Farinha. I found the area really lovely and the people, though poor very amiable. The beaches are really lovely too, and property was very cheap then. It is the sort of place you can live in. The prison as you say is very secure and presents no safety problem. I have also visited several other small villages on the coast and each of them has a charm, very different to the touristy areas of Ponta Negra and Pipa. I have no idea of the crimes relating to assaults and burglaries in these types of places, but since everyone knows everyone, I guess incidences would be lower than the cities where ladrones travel away from home to commit crime, where they are not recognised!
RalphJ - You're my HERO (swoon). You have come here to save us all from the bad people in Brazil and we just don't seem to appreciate it. Shame on us!
PG
Hi Ralph,
I sympathise with your friend's predicament. I believe the Brasilian authorities ( Receita Federal) are well aware of some of the illegal practices adopted by some sales companies. It may be possible to remedy the position if he can produce all documentation for the purchase, proof of the bank transfer of monies to the Agent, the builders or promotors name and CPNJ etc- the purchase contract and escritura showing the declared amount (I assume the sale was not fully declared or why would they pay outside of Brasil). As you say the transaction was not legal, - if the purchase money was clean, then it is possible to make a declaration, and possibly a denuncia against the sales company. Is the guy now a resident? If so then he has a bank account. He cannot take reais out easily or legally as you know. He really needs a friendly official to recognise his innocence in the affair. If you want you can skype me "michaelbush". I can tell you a story.........
No problem Peixe!
Talking to my friend Kevin Scott in London at this moment. The guy that took a bullet in the femoral artery in his leg and lost around half of the blood in his body before the police arrived here in Aracaju last April in his "fully secure" beachfront condominium. He's wanting me to help him to sell his house....go figure. Problem is, how the hell can he get the money out of the country when he paid an agent in England.....in his cuecas?
There are a couple of options for your unfortunate friend as I see it:
1/ large suitcase on the way home
2/ re-invest elsewhere in Brazil
3/ talk to Jose Santiago. I know he is currently dealing with a case from Itamaraca where the sale of a car has required the extraction of funds from Brazil to abroad. Very complicated but might be possible
Thanks Deb....we've considered all of the above. I even know Jose, have spoken to him before...very knowledgeable guy. He doesn't want to re-invest in Brazil so if we can't get something arranged through Banco Central legally, suitcase may be the only way. And naturally, as everyone knows, one takes a helluva chance carrying 40-50K sterling in ones suitcase. Matter of fact, he'd probably have to take the majority in reais.
Possibly multiple trips using friends, etc, say $10K per...?
could do that as well. There are 33 english that purchased at this condominium. Normally the majority come here this time of year. Naturally many of them have become friends. Sure he could get several of them to help him take it back. What's the max you can enter england with in cash? In the U.S. it's 10K U.S. Is it 10K sterling in England? If so, that's definitely an option.
Ref: money in cash
You are all confusing things here.
Let us clarify one thing: it is NOT illegal to carry more than 10.000,-USD into the US.
What is illegal is not to make a due declaration to the US Customs if your money is above this amount.
Similar laws apply in most EU countries with differents maximum amount of cash that are exempted of declaration, depending of the country.
It is important of course, to know the limit and to declare the excess.
Unless you are in a DEA, IRS or CIA wanted list, the customs could not care less whether it comes from a real estate sale or a poker play.
However what is illegal is to leave Brazil with 10.000,-USD in cash, if you did not declared it upon arrival.
Again, here the limit exempted of declaration IS NOT 10.000,-USD, but 10.000,-BRL
( REAIS ),as it is clearly stated in the Brazilian Customs form you all get.
Forget bringing a huge amount of REAIS in cash out of Brazil. It is totally illegal and they are virtually worthless in Europe. Although some banks will change Reais in Europe, the rate will outrageous.
In Brazil, when such a need arises, some people contact a “dolero”. This option is much better than all the other options you people are mentioning.
Forget Sterling, today the 500 Euro note is king !
1/ Foreigners non-residents are entitled to have a current account in Brazil