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Huge New Oil Field Found Rio de Janeiro

Discussion in 'Brazil Property' started by nigel-aib, Apr 17, 2008.

  1. nigel-aib

    nigel-aib New Member

    AP) A deep-water exploration area off Brazil's coast could contain as much as 33 billion barrels of oil, the head of Brazil's National Petroleum Agency said Monday. That would make it the world's third-largest known oil reserve.

    Haroldo Lima cautioned that his information on the field off the coast of Rio de Janeiro is unofficial and needs to be confirmed.

    The state-run Petrobras oil company declined comment on what would be the planet's largest oil find in decades, and its shares moved wildly in positive territory after Lima made the comments.

    By early afternoon, the company's American depository shares were up 8.5 percent in New York, or $9.54, to $122.39. Petrobras shares in Brazil went on a wild rise, fluctuating between 2 percent and 7 percent higher and settling and up nearly 5 percent in late afternoon trading.

    Lima told reporters that Petrobras "may have discovered a huge petroleum field that could contain reserves large as 33 billion barrels," amounting to the world's third-largest reserve, according to his spokesman, Luiz Fernando Manso.

    Manso did not provide any details about where Lima got his information, except to say it came from "non-official, non-confirmed sources."

    Lima's agency regulates Brazil's oil industry, and his comments appeared to represent confirmation of what experts have long suspected: That extremely deep exploration areas hundreds of miles (kilometers) off the nation's coast may hold potentially huge reserves.

    Brazil's current proven oil reserves are 11.8 billion barrels, according to the U.S. Energy Department. The U.S. has 21.8 billion barrels in proven reserves.

    "You're talking about a reserve the size of total U.S. reserves," said Tim Evans, an analyst with Citigroup Inc. in New York. "It's a big, big number."

    If proven, the oil in the Carioca exploration area would also be five times larger than the Tupi oil field, whose estimated reserves of 8 billion barrels were announced by Petroleo Brasileiro SA in November. Petrobras also announced a blockbuster find of natural gas in February in an Atlantic Ocean field nicknamed Jupiter.

    Industry experts say the Tupi and Jupiter fields alone could turn Brazil into a major oil and gas exporter and lead to it joining OPEC.

    Nobody really has data on what's out there in the middle of the ocean.

    Tim Evans, an analyst with Citigroup Inc. in New YorkPetrobras is renowned for its deep-water drilling ability, and is widely regarded as one of the best state-run oil companies in the world.

    Brazil became self-sufficient in oil production in 2006 but must import light crude oil for the refined products it needs. The country produces - and exports - mostly heavy crude oil, which has to be mixed with the light oil in refineries.

    While the potential Brazil find could add significant supplies to a global oil market many see as tight, it would likely take the better part of a decade before any of oil finds its way to market. The site will need to be studied further, and drilling platforms must be designed, built and transported before it can start producing oil.

    However, it does cast new doubt on peak oil theory, which postulates that world oil demand will soon outpace supply.

    It is impossible to say whether or not more 33-billion-barrel oil fields exist under the sea, Evans said.

    "Nobody really has data on what's out there in the middle of the ocean," Evans said.
  2. Dotty

    Dotty Banned

    No , I guess they would not have data.The Atlantic is rather large.
  3. robh

    robh Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

  4. Dotty

    Dotty Banned

    Rob,you are clearly passionate about Brasil but you never seem to mention the negative sides and so you choose to focus on the positive side which is making money from over hyped investments.Do you feel the same about Bulgaria?
  5. Golfingworld

    Golfingworld New Member

    This is clearly a good thing whether confirmed or not seems a lot depends on the future oil price and extraction cost....doubt oil prices will drop. It does help to uplift confidence in Brazil that's for sure....still doesn't solve the problem of getting there cheaply mind you!
  6. RalphJ

    RalphJ New Member

    Don't know how "impressive" it is....could be taken the other way, as if Brazil is at the peak of a cycle. Very good article although. The last paragraph summed it up nicely...

  7. michaelbush

    michaelbush New Member

    Thanks for the post Rob - the article was very interesting. On balance it shows that Brasil has so much in its favour, and Lula, despite Dotty's opinion of him, is doing a reasonable job. Unfortunately corruption is still the norm, and a Brasilian friend/ client said that nobody gets accepted for candidacy unless they agree to eat from the same trough (at least that is a rough translation). He said it is therefore almost impossible to stop the corruption which Brasilians accept in silence. Election votes can be bought locally for the price of a can of beer and a free party. With so many women, it is a shame that there are so few females in politics.
  8. Raimundo

    Raimundo Guest

    yea, I heard about this.... well, it's a good thing. But the rich get richer in Brazil. 5% of the super wealthy (mostly based in Sao Paulo) control 95% of the country. There's a reason why the Brazilian Gov doesn't educate the masses--the'll stay stupid, which is what the politicians want, so they can in essence control the masses, which they are doing, and will continue to do....
  9. robh

    robh Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    That doesn't sound too different to party politics in most countries to me.

    I remember an election at university for a student council representative that was won with free beer and a party, it was a good party as well :D.
  10. Dotty

    Dotty Banned

    There was talk today on CNN that maybe this was a political piece of hype from The Lula Party and it will take between 2/3 years to know the real quantity of petrolium at present they actually do not know.Considering Brasil produces petrol,prices are mighty high here and with the Lula PARTY IF THE FIND IS TRUE he will put the price up .Hes not very good at Math.
  11. RalphJ

    RalphJ New Member

    They've already received quite a bit of criticism for having a "porta voz" publicly declaring the size of the oil field, which then affected stock prices in several different companies, brazilian and european, when in reality they do not know the actual size yet. Whatever the size is of this find, 55-60% of it is owned by two european companies, one being british, the rest by petrobras.
  12. FCZ

    FCZ New Member

    This is an interesting just published article relating the costs, challenges and estimate (wild) returns on the two main oil fileds discovery. Exclusive

    Yes, Brazil owns entirely the oil field, like anywhere in the world since the end of colonial times. But Petropras and its foreign partners will receive fantastic fees for pumping out the oil, a financial and technical challenge.

    Disclosure: 18-15 years ago, I participated in TV debates, radios, and wrote newspapers articles defending the privatization of Petrobras (I'm still in favour of that) or, at least, the end of its monopoly. Let me add that in that time I wasn't very popular, if anyone knows what was the ideological grounds back then, knows what I mean. But I'm quite glad that at least partnership with international companies are happening. A I hope the government doesn't get to greedy now and try to reverse that. Greedy is a worldwide problem, especially with numbers around trillions.
  13. RalphJ

    RalphJ New Member

    The last two large discoveries off brazilian waters has been extremely deep. Matter of fact, much deeper than the deepest current rigs which are in the gulf of mexico. New technology needs to be developed to get this oil out of the ocean floor, and last I heard Petrobras had 49% with two european oil companies having the other 51%.
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