Brazil- Property Solicitors/law Firms!!

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PAUL-brasil

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Can anyone recommend a good Accountant in Fortaleza?????
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Paul
 
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michaelbush

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Very good.Thorough,though a tad expensive.
Manzanares is an International lawyer firm. Here in Natal they are Spanish lawyers and subcontract the work to a Brasilian lawyer, and then report to the client. So in effect you will be paying twice, and therefore will be paying a higher price than if you use the brasilian lawyer direct. The Brasilian lawyer also speaks English.
 
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wolfgang

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Hi Mike,
Which Brazilian lawyer are you referring to?
I managed to find the right road to the new bridge back to Natal btw after our meeting and look forward to hooking up with you again when i next visit N.E.Brazil.:)
 
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michaelbush

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Hi Mike,
Which Brazilian lawyer are you referring to?
I managed to find the right road to the new bridge back to Natal btw after our meeting and look forward to hooking up with you again when i next visit N.E.Brazil.:)
Hi wolfgang- shame you could not be at our convention!! I too look forward to seeing you again. BTW- think I can offer 70% loans on a 5 year deal. Need to tidy up the bits, but am seeing the bank again this week to make sure it will work Ok.
the lawyer I refer to is Almeida Costa Name if I remember correctly is Nobrega. Office next door to Manzanares in Natal
 
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Gee69

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Hi all,

I see posts about various positives & negatives of property law firms (some local firms not knowing tax implications at the home country of the investor, fee differential between various firms etc. etc...)

I guess the place of origin of the legal firm is key to many aspects discussed here...

My observation is that most of the law firms recommended by property agents are based in Europe. Some have offices on Brazil and some just specialize in Brazilian property laws, but have not set up shop in Brazil.

And then there are these "local" law firms of Brazilian origin...

The latter category of 'local' firms would be naturally cheaper compared to the 'multinational' property specialist image of the former.

Gee
 
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PAUL-brasil

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Hi all,

I see posts about various positives & negatives of property law firms (some local firms not knowing tax implications at the home country of the investor, fee differential between various firms etc. etc...)

I guess the place of origin of the legal firm is key to many aspects discussed here...

My observation is that most of the law firms recommended by property agents are based in Europe. Some have offices on Brazil and some just specialize in Brazilian property laws, but have not set up shop in Brazil.

And then there are these "local" law firms of Brazilian origin...
The latter category of 'local' firms would be naturally cheaper compared to the 'multinational' property specialist image of the former.

Gee
Very true, I have spoken to a few law firms both in Brazil and so called experts from europe who know nothing about tax implications of BRAZIL never mind the implications of the country of the investor!

In most cases these 'multi national' law firms just outsource the work to local lawyers for that area, hence the much higher price.

Also note that many property agents recommend a law firm for a reason!!
 
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Gee69

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Which office are you in touch with Wolf, the Spanish office of Manzanares or Brazilian office ?

My contact is Jennifer Saxon [email protected].
Her English is excellent.She will not know me by the name of Wolfgang though it does demonstrate i have no vested interest in making this referral.
They were not the cheapest quote ,though by no means the most expensive either.
It is a false economy to skimp on legal fees ,especially within the context of real estate acquisition in Brazil as anyone who has conducted even a modicom of due dilligence will be only too aware!
 
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Gee69

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Mardsei, Wolf, Dee etal...

I am not sure if some sort of standards are followed in offering these quotes. I one of my cases Legalex is recommended by my agent. The agent themselves indicate approximate 'legal charges'. And these quotes are nowhere near the 1 or 1.5% mentioned by mardsei !!

(Notwithstanding this, I tried contacting Legalex directly as if I got a direct reference. Still their quote is the same).

I guess 1 to 1.5% is an acceptable norm in many markets.

Do you guyz think that may be they are undertaking some additional services in case of Brazilian deals which results in much higher quotes?

Gee

Gee

Hello all, I have just bought and was "recommended" the services of Legalex Group (her name is Carmela Calday) at a cost of 1.5%. they also said that if I let them do my Moroccan property fees then they will do them for 1% (0.5 discount). The company who recommended her are the ones who I reserved through who are Invest In Brazil. Not sure if they have any links.
 
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debzor

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Please, everyone, do not confuse legal representation for a property purchase with that for immigration. The latter is much more complicated and expensive. Take professional advice long before any commitment...
 
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